to more export driven economy, all the right ideas. and in small ways he's been following through. has he been following through as obsessively as i would like, no. but he understands the concept. and so you know, he is, and if anything frustrates him, i think, it's that he has to spend some of time, some of of his time on the short term, he would love to do the long-term i think. my sense is, and it is just a sense, is that he feels a little hemed in, forced by short term necessity to pay attention to this or that. so i do think he and his feel, larry summers and people like that, they understood where the-- they understand where the country needs to g the need to build an export driven economy. >> rose: how much dow buy into this idea that we are, you know, that we have become politically dysfunctional. >> totally. >> rose: totally. politics and when you decide as to why that is, is it because of our institutions or is it because the nature of people who inhabit those institutions today. >> talk about a question i can't answer. the people are fine.